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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:03 pm
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Hello All,

The first Dou Core iMac just came into our shop and we have run into a
problem with it not connecting to our 2003 Files Server, even though we
installed the lastest UAM with NTLMv2 128-bit and we have bounded the
iMac to the Active Directory Domain. The error we get is "Failed to
Connect, Error 2".

Does anyone know if 2003 Files Services for Mac is compatible with the
new Dou Cores?

Jason

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:17 am
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William,

Thanks for your response. All our other Macs connect fine to the File
Server we have about 150 OS X systems that have been using our file
server for 2 years, so this is why I am wondering if there is a problem
with just the Dou cores. We do connect with afp and not smb. We do
have File Services for Mac installed on the Windows 2003 server.

Jason

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:30 pm
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mail RemoveThis @jasonmartinez.com wrote:

> William,
>
> Thanks for your response. All our other Macs connect fine to the File
> Server we have about 150 OS X systems that have been using our file
> server for 2 years, so this is why I am wondering if there is a problem
> with just the Dou cores. We do connect with afp and not smb. We do
> have File Services for Mac installed on the Windows 2003 server.

I've yet to see an Intel Mac myself to help you verify your theory. Do
you have a second Windows machine set up similarly to test against?

bill
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:49 am
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Sure, we have both PC and G5/G4 Macs that all connect to the fileserver
fine. And on the new iMac I logged on with my own domain account and
could not connect to the fileserver.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:16 pm
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mail.RemoveThis@jasonmartinez.com wrote:

> Sure, we have both PC and G5/G4 Macs that all connect to the fileserver
> fine. And on the new iMac I logged on with my own domain account and
> could not connect to the fileserver.

Hi Jason!

Sorry, I may have not have been clear in my last post. Do you have
another Windows server to test the Intel Mac with? I'd be very curious
to know if this is consistent.

Thanx! bill
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:43 pm
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William, this is the error message found in the console.log when
verbose debugging is on:

2006-02-13 14:53:21.148 afp_mount[483] CFLog (21): dyld returns 2 when
trying to load
/Library/Filesystems/AppleShare/Authentication/MicrosoftUAM.uamx/Contents/PlugIns/CarbonUAM.bundle/Contents/MacOS/CarbonUAM

I do not have another files server to test on. By the way I have no
trouble connecting to an MS Shared folder on a desktop machine using
smb. It is only an issue if you want to use the UAM for higher level of
encryption.

Jason
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:43 pm
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William, this is the error message found in the console.log when
verbose debugging is on:

2006-02-13 14:53:21.148 afp_mount[483] CFLog (21): dyld returns 2 when
trying to load
/Library/Filesystems/AppleShare/Authentication/MicrosoftUAM.uamx/Contents/PlugIns/CarbonUAM.bundle/Contents/MacOS/CarbonUAM

I do not have another files server to test on. By the way I have no
trouble connecting to an MS Shared folder on a desktop machine using
smb. It is only an issue if you want to use the UAM for higher level of
encryption.

Jason
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:41 pm
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mail RemoveThis @jasonmartinez.com wrote:

> William, this is the error message found in the console.log when
> verbose debugging is on:
>
> 2006-02-13 14:53:21.148 afp_mount[483] CFLog (21): dyld returns 2 when
> trying to load
> /Library/Filesystems/AppleShare/Authentication/MicrosoftUAM.uamx/Contents/Plug
> Ins/CarbonUAM.bundle/Contents/MacOS/CarbonUAM
>
> I do not have another files server to test on. By the way I have no
> trouble connecting to an MS Shared folder on a desktop machine using
> smb. It is only an issue if you want to use the UAM for higher level of
> encryption.

Hi Jason!

Here's a thought.

It may not be that the Intel Mac itself is having issues but rather the
Microsoft UAM. After all, it is not only an older piece of software
(last updated to work with 10.1) but also was developed in a PPC
environment. I know you'd like the better encryption but in this case
the UAM may be getting in the way.

It is possible to set your server to allow both Microsoft and clear text
connections, which means you could continue to use the UAM on all the
PPC Macs.

bill
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:31 pm
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William,

It is definately the UAM software. I talked to an Apple system engineer
assinged to our campus and had not heard about anyone connecting yet. I
talked to Microsoft. They say they have no official information on
compatibility. On Macwindows.com I am the second person to report a
problem with the UAM not working. I am weighing the security risk of
using SMB. I just wish Microsoft would release a Universal Binary of
the UAM. It would solve all my problems.

Jasonn
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:17 pm
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mail DeleteThis @jasonmartinez.com wrote:

> William,
>
> It is definately the UAM software. I talked to an Apple system engineer
> assinged to our campus and had not heard about anyone connecting yet. I
> talked to Microsoft. They say they have no official information on
> compatibility. On Macwindows.com I am the second person to report a
> problem with the UAM not working. I am weighing the security risk of
> using SMB. I just wish Microsoft would release a Universal Binary of
> the UAM. It would solve all my problems.

Hi Jason!

Glad to hear you've determined your problem.

Keep in mind that the only security features the UAM provides are
encrypted password authentication and longer passwords. Nothing else
(such as file traffic) is encrypted or secured in any way.

If this is a priority for you then I suggest looking into installing
Group Logic's ExtremeZ-IP AFP server. It will allow your Macs to log in
with secured passwords. Additionally, it offers long file name support,
AD integration for single sign-on and supports Windows ACLs.

I wouldn't hold my breath for an update to the UAM. It hasn't been
updated since the early days of Mac OS X and Windows Server support
hasn't been updated since the days of Mac OS 8 and 9. Microsoft is
focusing its attention on its Longhorn/Vista server development but
after two full Windows Server releases without an upgrade for Mac
support, what you're asking for looks bleak.

bill
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